The Canadian and American justice systems have many similarities but they also differ dramatically in the area of bail for those charged with criminal offences.
While both jurisdictions favour the release of alleged offenders on specific conditions pending trial, including the posting of bail, bounty hunters and bail bondsmen proliferate in the United States. In Canada, bail bondsmen and bounty hunters are illegal and to world-wide critics of the practice, immoral and discriminatory.
And Canada is not alone. Most countries, with the exception of the Philipines, will charge a bounty hunter with kidnapping if they remove a citizen, albeit a fugitive, from their soil. The authority of a bounty hunter does not extend beyond the jurisdiction of his or her home country or state and even in America, where several states have outlawed bounty hunters, including Illinois, Kentucky, Wisconsin and Oregon, a fugitive-finder must exercise extreme caution.
That is why the world’s best known bounty hunters, Duane and Beth Chapman, aka Dog the Bounty Hunter’s, recent threats to capture Oscar-winning actor Randy Quaid, now living in Vancouver, can’t be taken for more than a publicity ploy timed for the start of their new season on A&E television.
Dog surely knows that Canada and the U.S. entered into a memorandum of understanding in 1988 that provides there will be no cross-border kidnapping of Canadians.
He certainly is intimately familiar with the aftermath of interfering with a U.S. citizen on foreign soil after the clandestine removal of sex offender and Max Factor trust-fund beneficiary, Andrew Luster from Mexico. Luster was successfully returned to California to serve his 124-year sentence. Dog went home to Hawaii and was later arrested by police as a result of an extradition request by the Mexican government. After a night in jail he posted bail and eventually the Mexican authorities dropped the criminal charges against him. It made for good television.
There are, however, clever ways to fool a fugitive into slipping back into the United States so that a legal capture can occur. Businessman Fred J. Gilliland fled the United States after his massive securities frauds were uncovered. He escaped to West Vancouver where it was reported he lived in the lap of luxury. Gilliland had ripped off hundreds of people and had more than just a few enemies as a result of his criminal behavior. One of his enemies was a British Columbia resident who alleged he had been suckered into one of Gilliland’s fraudulent schemes and lost $200,000 dollars.
Brian Van Vlack, who described himself as a private investigator, befriended Gilliland, eventually luring him for lunch to Point Roberts, a sleepy beach town, that happened to be a sliver of land that was part of the State of Washington. Just as lunch began, American police emerged, arrested Gilliland and returned him to Florida to face the music.
I suspect that Randy Quaid will not be as gullible or cocky as Gilliland, and after all, why would Quaid visit the U.S? He has pretty much burned all his bridges there.
Lawdiva aka Georgialee Lang
45 thoughts on “No Place For Bounty Hunters in Canada”
I can’t stand Dog the Bounty Hunter a self appointed vigilante running around suburbia and airports with badges and assault rifles. Low standards all around, and there should be no place for private bounty hunters in Canada, especially armed ones. I believe that if bounty hunters or FBI (authorized or unauthorized) agents capture a fugitive in Canada and transport him/her across the border to the United States, it is considered a legal act under U.S. federal law.
I agree with you.. I beleive these people that choose bounty hunting as a career are no better then the people they are hunting.. Any person that makes an income off other people’s misery are scum…Dog and his wife are glorified bullys and should be taking off the air.. I read something, somewhere that goes a little something like “if you live in a glass house you shouldn’t throw stones” Need I say more… We pay our taxes for Police to do these services.. Let them do their job…
For some strange reason I just got notifies about this post today. But thanks for you comments. Dog the Bounty Hunter is in its final season, but some these reality tv shows are really bad for law & justice. I believe there is a new one on tenant eviction that seems so low. But some of the Police reality are good, even Cajun Justice.
yea, by the way; he doesn’t carry assault rifles or lethal weapons of any sort. just pepper spray. and if you give it more than the 8 seconds of attention that your app-texted mind allows, you may see that he identifies with their plight and tries to touch some base too, he after all was once there; but took a new path.
Dont judge a man untill you walk a Mile in his shoes!
Well the schmuck can’t carry a weapon, since he is also a convicted felon. I would like to see how he gets into Canada, unless the Nazi party (Conservative Party of Canada) gives him a passl
US bounty hunters have no power to arrest in Canada other than the ordinary power of citizens arrest and regardless of the agency no person can be forced to cross an international border against their will – Also – considering Canadian Castle defense / stand your ground laws apply to any place that a Canadian has a legal right to be it would be a bad day for the arresting person without a warrant signed off by a Canadian Judge
Although I do agree with you re: Duane Chapman and his band of hoodlums, their rifles are not loaded with bullets, but with mace or crushed salt. They are not sanctioned to carry regulatory guns or rifles. They can’t even carry bows.
also considered an illegal act under Canadian law
Yes, that’s correct.
Lawscribe Thanks for your comment. I am not familiar with US federal law or the law of extradition between Canada and the US. I think I’ll do a post on extradition to see what it is all about.
PS I enjoy reading your blog!
Thanks. Been away from my blog for while, just finished revamping it. If I can blog like you, maybe you’ll buy me a coffee. 🙂 (ps I hope you will create a facebook page, its really hard to share your twitter posts there). Thanks, have a Great Canada Day!
he or she hates this bounty hunter, or that one…. I watch dog and lisa and as a full time bounty hunter some things make ya just make ya say why. In fact the bail paper work on luster is sighned on the wall of one of my biggest clients. Oh and where is the good old mister luster, the rapesy? I yhink he is in jail. Why? not because of tax paid cops. Not cuz of the mexican policia. cuz of dog…… it chaps me that even when a jumper runs, he knows that a beautiful resort area or even one of four states set up safe haven so they can go on with the life that has been so good to them and the community. http://www.joebountyhunter.com
Once a person commits a crime they are responsible for whatever actions or punishments the law sets against them. This may include having a bounty hunter come after you. If there is a murderer running around on the streets it is better for him to either be shot or apprehended in whatever means necessary as long as it is humane. I agree that bounty hunters shouldn’t be inhumane towards the people they capture
The basic idea of bond is important. That citizens (who are innocent until proven guilty) are able to be out of jail to get back to their lives, secure legal support etc. Allowing bail bond companies to operate takes the burden off the taxpayer. While some might think a government surety is ideal, keep in mind when the defendant skips the courts then begin another process to capture and collect payment from the cosignor. If you left the work to a bail bonds company, the burden to return the defendant is up to them and there is no cost to the taxpayer for their services. I can hear the critics now though about some of the actions of certain bounty hunters or bondsmen. Be honest, you have a few people in EVERY industry that makes that industry look bad… politicians, teachers, cops, firefighters, bondsmen… it doesn’t matter the job, there’s always going to be someone that puts that industry in a bad light. Some states that have abolished bail bonds are seeing a huge increase in people who fail to appear (see Oregon).
yes, but if you understand the bail law in the US. The person is signing to be a slave. So much for your glory constitution, to still have slaves.
I am a bail bondsman, and our “bounty hunters” are called bail enforcement agents. I agree that every industry has a few people in it that will give that industry a bad reputation. As for the local police and your state, I have a question… Will your local police investigate a fugitive that has relocated to a neighboring state to return that fugitive to justice? Or in other words, will your local pd go get the drug dealer who terrorized your neighborhood and dealt drugs to your children when the dealer flees to another jurisdiction? No they will not. Not a big enough case for a federally entity, DEA, but out of reach for the local police. That’s when a fugitive recovery agent will travel hundreds to thousands of miles to put this fugitive back in jail to face his crime. With that being said, there is a fugitive of ours who stole hundreds to thousands of dollars via credit card crimes. They have relocated to Canada, and is living a luxurious life at the expense of honest people. We would love to bring this fugitive back to justice, but can not enter Canada, and the government authorities say they will not get involved. “Bounty Hunters” are not the people you should be angry with. This person who stole money from innocent people, then fled, causing the need for bounty hunters, is the person who you should be mad at.
You are absolutely correct jr; anybody look into the eyes of the victom? then you will see pain and might think different! about, well you know; Also Canada is being flooded by criminals of all types who take full advantage of our word of honour system, but times are a changing-even in Canada
We have one criminal code, so no problem with interprovincial transfer of prisoners. So don’t cry, you made your own problems. I still think bounty hunters and bailbonds men are douches.
Actually, we don’t have what you call “jurisdictions” when it comes to a person who’s been charged with an indictable crime. If they committed their offence in say Toronto and they flee to Vancouver, our police can still arrest him. We don’t operate like in the U.S. where the laws of arrest differ from state to state due to “jurisdiction”. We do not have those boundaries here. There have been many instances where police pull someone over for a traffic ticket in Vancouver and the moment that person’s name is run on our CPIC system, the officer will be notified instantly that he or she is wanted in Toronto ontario for an indictable crime. So they make the arrest on the spot and will return the person back to Ontario to appear for their crimes.
I neglected to add that not only do we have our CPIC system for Canadian criminals, but we’re also linked to the U.S. criminal registry and yes, if a U.S. offender comes up on our system, our officers have the legal right to arrest him/her. That’s why we have extradition laws and they go through the court process as if it was one of our own. The exception is their “day in court” is based on whether the extradition panel of judges rule on whether they go back to the states or not. Do you remember when Bambi Bambenek took residency here in thunder bay, Ontario? Well, she was eventually arrested because someone recognized her from America’s Most Wanted. Well, our officers made the arrest and she was flown to Toronto and appeared before an extradition hearing and the ruling was she was to be returned to the states and she was. Now, as for the incident with Randy Quaid who took refuge in Vancouver, he went through the extradition process as well, and they ruled he could stay because he took refuge under his wife’s Canadian Citizenship, but one of the stipulations was if he gets involved in ANY illegal activities here, he WILL BE EXTRADITED back to the U.S. So he has to keep his nose very, very, clean or Chapman will be waiting at the border for him.
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why not allow it in canada , it would free up the police to do other cases .
That’s not entirly factual. The truth is in Candian law there are two roles a Police officer can assume. Each depends upon the jurisdiction and circumstances present. It is lawful for a peace officer to make a citizens arrest. And according to Canadian law, I can as a canadian citizen assign certain title and duties to another citizen under contract and or demand they act as a peace officer on my behalf to fufill the protective duty to prevent harm to my person.
This is one of the more ignorant posts I’ve read, bounty hunting is extremely humane and the ones bounty hunting are not low life scum like the ones they are hunting. One: There are no “Dead or Alive” circumstances, you need the person alive period, anything else is murder. Two: You cannot collect a single cent if the person has any broken bones or bruises resulting from you, the bounty huner. Three: Police officers should patrol, make arrests, and do their desky duty among other things, they should not go on wild manhunts that can take weeks, yes weeks, of their precious law enforcing time. Detectives solve mysteries not chase people down, that’s the end of that. Canada needs a new proffesion… and that proffession is bounty hunting. I’m all for shouting go Canada, I’m proud, but I’m not blind… Canada is in the wrong here, we should not be wasting law enforcement officers’ time.
Hoof My article simply points out that bounty hunting is illegal in Canada, and other jurisdictions. It also recounts examples of successful captures. Not sure why you would say it is ignorant, but it is truthful. Glad you enjoy your career and aren’t you happy it’s legal in your state!
Let me tell you all something, I was born and raised in Oshawa Ontario, if I ever ran paths with anyone who threatens me I will do whatever it takes to take him down, if I found out that a fugitive from another country or even here was hiding out in my neighbourhood, I would do whatever it takes to bring him down, police officers are useless and lazy they do not even try to get the real criminals, I was out one night minding my own business when two guys come at me with bats I end up taking them out but I get charged with assault with a deadly weapon times two: all I did was defend myself and my life gets f… over because I had no witnesses.
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Does Bill C-51 change anything about all this, bounty and deportation from Canada to US? Because I spoke to a RCMP Officer and there is US Police everywhere in Canada (everywhere you see a RCMP Office at least)?
There not being a slave there saying that if they don’t show up for a court date then they will turn themselves in and when people like y’all think that bounty hunters are not needed how the hell to you expect the cops to do there job when people claim abuse then you get the fact that they have sat in their own area or they can’t make an arrest but bounty hunters can make arrests anywhere and hand them over to the police but if you don’t let police do there normal job and want them to have to go hunt down some idiot that for got to go to court. You want a cop to go get them and instead of protecting the public they have to go get these idiots And not protect you
Why wouldn’t it be illegal? Canada loves criminals, terrorist, child molesters & all the other scum of the earth just look at its court system. It let’s a horrible creature that killed her own sister go free.
Sorry but considering how many people are trying to eliminate cops, what choice do we have? Considering that according to organizations like BLM, cops are Evil and must be eliminated, how are we all supposed to handle this. You’re encouraging ordinary people to go out and take the law into their own hands which has shown before that it usually ends badly.
My article does not encourage vigilante justice, it simply points out that bounty hunters are not legal in Canada, and have been banned in several of the United States, as well.
An armed society is a polite society.
I am a northern Cree Tracker I use my hunting skills to find criminals I do not arrest them or approach them but I keep my keen eye on them until authorities arrive now some would say thats bounty hunting but its a fine line between a Tracker and a Bounty hunter… one simply finds a criminal and the other makes the arrest of the criminal but in the end both must hunt the criminal…and if Canada or Canadian citizens dont like what I do well too bad last I checked this land is my inheritance from my ancestors some of this inheritance was stolen by your ancestors and since im being forced to live side by side with the children of my peoples murderers then you have no say in what I do or how I progress as long as im not harming the innocent…Hey just a thought 😉
With Canada’s failed legal system, its only a matter of time before we start seeing bounty hunters again.
The courts are falling apart trying to regulate the sheer number of people being processed.
This country is on the brink of collapse.
And those who remain mentally complacent enough not to notice, will be subject to the mercy of Darwin’s theory.
An armed society is a polite society.
Canada will become Scandinavia 2.0 if we dont pull our heads out of our asses and regognize human nature first. Canada in my view is already failed state. Those responsible spit on individuality, independence and self sustainability. All things that each and every one of us stronger. But the post modern neo- marxists would have us believe that a socialist police state is the better option. Bitch bye
I see how this works. The owner of this blog and 96% of the people reading it are Left Wing douchebags. Lawyers in general are scum. I find it funny that some of the comments against bail enforcement agents claim that they make money off other people’s misery. That’s rich, since lawyers generally do the exact same thing. Talk about a complete lack of self awareness. Hypocrites.
You are dead wrong when it comes to my politics…conservative all the way and a big Trump fan!